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engine replacement bolts

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:16 pm
by ga_goosh
I am having issues with the toyota oem cam journal bolts. i broke the first one off in my old head that was in a running motor and i broke the second one in the new head just trying to remove it...(very frustrating) i no longer trust the oem bolts so is there any kind of replacements? ARP maybe? I looked it up and i cant seem to find any ARP cam journal bolts. I dont want to go to the hardware store either. i want to buy some good bolts that i shouldnt have to worry about breaking. i am getting tired of broken bolts. my motor is a 16v large port

Re: engine replacement bolts

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:27 pm
by dr.occa
Try these

Re: engine replacement bolts

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:39 pm
by ga_goosh
so im guessing there is no other option then oem?

Re: engine replacement bolts

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:05 pm
by McKenney
those bolts are only torqued to 19 lb/ft... how the hell did you break them? I've been into at least 20 4age's now and never have I broken one...

Re: engine replacement bolts

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:32 pm
by ga_goosh
the first one broke at less than 9ft/lb when i was installing my cams after my head gasket. that bolt had to have been weakened or stressed some how cuz i hardly put any force on it at all. the second one was being stored in the head and it broke trying to remove the cam cap. 2 of the other bolts almost did the same thing but i was able to get them out with out breaking them. i think the bolts had some rust on it. think how i feel 2 heads w/broken bolts is frustrating. at least my new head has some bolt to grab onto. that is why i want some good bolts so i can feel more confident with them

Re: engine replacement bolts

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:52 pm
by dr.occa
I've got another smallport head if you need it Sean. LMK.

Re: engine replacement bolts

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:33 am
by ga_goosh
i just bought one last weekend where where you before that i went to austin for this one lol. Thanks Ill let you know Jonas but Im going to try to get this bolt out. i think i can get it out i just need replacement bolts that are better then what was in there.

Re: engine replacement bolts

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:53 am
by dr.occa
Well if you need it let me know. PM'd.

Re: engine replacement bolts

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:19 pm
by ga_goosh
will do thanks Jonas

Re: engine replacement bolts

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:52 am
by McKenney
I broke one of the same bolts last night... but I had spares. Just thought you'd get a laugh since I'd never had one break.

Re: engine replacement bolts

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:11 am
by ga_goosh
aww no lol it makes me chuckle a bit but i didnt mean to jinx you

Re: engine replacement bolts

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:33 pm
by McKenney
oh well, it's fixed now no biggy. just really sucked at the time. It was the last one I was torquing down after swapping the exhaust cam...

Re: engine replacement bolts

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:36 am
by ga_goosh
that is how it was for me too except mine was in the intake side. glad you got yours out. one of mine i had to drill and i might have to take it to the machine shop but the other i think i can get it. i just havent attacked it yet

Re: engine replacement bolts

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:41 pm
by ga_goosh
so my dad suggested some anti seize for these bolts but im just not sure since the fsm says to apply oil only. im not sure how i feel about that

Re: engine replacement bolts

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:01 pm
by mbehrens
ok youdont need to buy cyl heads when you break bolts ... drill and hilicoil .. and before you install the bolts, look at each on and make sure the treads are not stretched cuz they will pull off .. and check for cracks or even the slightist twist cuz they will break... also for the bolts oil is good and you can even use a very little lube.. also just remembered also chase the threads on the bolt with a die and chase the hole threads with a tap, any burrs in the threads will make you snag and then you can ruin the threads where you will need to drill and hilicoil and or break a bolt with out realising because your tightining the bolt and real quike it binds and the torque your already apllying is like what is in motion stays in motion lol... so anyways yeah make sure you have no burrs in the threads ...