Vicious steering angle

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hvguy wrote:
CBR_TOY wrote:so in other words..... just get aftermarket tie rods and call it a day.
That doesn't change the amount of steering you can get out of 2.5 turns. It only replaces your OEM tie rod ends.
not true ueo tie rods give you a lot more angle by using the fact that corolla steering racks have more teeth than they acctually use these tie rods take advantage of that and basicly give you the max amount of steering angle that you can have without hitting fram rail and fender
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err. I thought the only reason you max out your steering is because the rack runs out of teeth. And what difference are ueo's tie rod ends? even if they were longer, you would just have to adjust them in further on the rack ends.

I don't understand. :?:
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the rack hits a positive stop before it runs out of teeth the spacer allow the rack to clear the positive stop and use all the teeth that are machined on it. this is why you cant run power steering with it because the rack will go outside the seal teeth. The ueo tie rods come with the spacer machined into them its basicly the same thing.
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the only way i can see achieving this "ZTR" you're talking about is in the following illustration i mocked up:
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extensive chassis modification to inner fender wells and possibly the undercarriage. cutting into the undercarriage is NOT a good idea. cutting a channel through can be accomplished but only by reinforcing the area and adding new reinforcement to regain front end support integrity.

eliminating ALL clearance limitations can be done. but will the "gains" be worth the effort and will they create a new problem or compound existing ones.

remember, every corner has an actual max speed it can be taken at which is determined by the car's mass, tire and surface contact and the natural phenomena of inertial and centrifugal force. you then have to determine what is the optimum counter directional angle necessary to re-direct a body in centrifugal motion. too much "counter steer" is just as bad as not enough.

anyway, just some thoughts to wet ones whistle.

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Quaife QSR v3 quick steer rack +GTV knuckles= "ZTR"

not zero like you want but damn close to it

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Thats more preferable.
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uh my car has more angle at lock then the one in the picture
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how are u supposed to change the ratio of the steering i saw a vid on the drift gto and he had it so that he would only turn the wheel half way to one side and it would be locked all the way.

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i'm fine with my stock angle..... it's plenty
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i have a really bad erge to just blow the 400$ on gss and also spend money on buying a new front set of tires and a buncha cheap power stars for the rear and get in some bad ass seat time :?

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Nasser wrote:i have a really bad erge to just blow the 400$ on gss and also spend money on buying a new front set of tires and a buncha cheap power stars for the rear and get in some bad ass seat time :?
For a small bit of gas money, I'm sure I could fit your corolla on my trailer. And spend 100$ on toyo proxie T1r's for the front.
nt66 wrote:uh my car has more angle at lock then the one in the picture
How'd you do it?
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nt66 wrote:uh my car has more angle at lock then the one in the picture
what car :?: ??? or does it :wink:

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nt66 wrote:uh my car has more angle at lock then the one in the picture

would like to see a picture of you car at lock

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alot can be done with money and Ueo parts

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Locked