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chasis stiffening
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:40 pm
by clooney
guys, how is the chasis for the AE86 hatch in general? being an 80s technology, i suppose it wont be as good as modern cars?
if yes, what is normally done that effectively improves this? prefer bolt ons.
Re: chasis stiffening
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:58 pm
by cdixon311
well that depends on your definition of what 'good' is lol
There are lots of things that can be done. Browse around the suspension section for some good ideas
http://86garage.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=48" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: chasis stiffening
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:03 pm
by clooney
cool. browsing now. hehe
Re: chasis stiffening
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:25 am
by dr.occa
Like most cars (even modern models) the 86 is primarily spot welded for cost savings. It's contingent on what your plans are for the car. If you want to maintain it for daily driving with some weekend warrior type events, then just some front strut tower braces, front fender braces and urethane bushings should be plenty.
If you'd like a more responsive setup closer to an ice cube sliding across linoleum then stitch welding is the way to go.
Full on race prep - stitch weld and cage it.
Re: chasis stiffening
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:53 pm
by cdixon311
sounds easy enough
Re: chasis stiffening
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:43 am
by 86boy
dr.occa wrote:
Full on race prep - stitch weld and cage it.
/\ I want...
Re: chasis stiffening
Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 8:55 am
by SkabRock5
me too.
Re: chasis stiffening
Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:24 pm
by ga_goosh
lol who doesnt
i also found this by a c4ag member. its an idea
http://forums.club4ag.com/zerothread?id=112671
Re: chasis stiffening
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 1:26 am
by Manifesto
ga_goosh wrote:its an idea
this is the most amazing thing ive seen
Re: chasis stiffening
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:24 am
by hotdoghogie
The only thing stitch welding does is freshen up an old chassis. My personal opinion, stitch welding doesn't make a huge difference. Gussets and a solid cage will make the biggest improvement also if it's all out 2 part urethane foam. There used to be a video on YT of TRD showing you where and how to gusset you 86 on Tsuchiya San's personal car.
Re: chasis stiffening
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:34 am
by dr.occa
Stitch welding replaces the weaker "glued" joints where pieces start to separate when an increased amount and frequency of side g-forces are introduced along with varying elevations from road courses/uneven pavement coupled with sudden suspension compressions, rebound and transfers. Stitch welding most notably increases desirable chassis "twitch"/response. Too much coupled with a cage can make the car TOO twitchy. You're basically making the chassis as a whole respond rapidly rather than pieces "lagging" behind another due to give.
Re: chasis stiffening
Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 9:29 pm
by hotdoghogie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqWDjAWxvKI" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: chasis stiffening
Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:47 pm
by dr.occa
That's a great DVD series.
Re: chasis stiffening
Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:12 pm
by hotdoghogie
What the name of the series? Option?
Re: chasis stiffening
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:33 am
by dr.occa
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