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S chassis front lower control arms on AE86

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:00 am
by Latino Hibino
I know of people using the S chassis (S13, S14, S15) lower control arms to use the S chassis coilover options, but what I want to know is if I can use the knuckle from the AE86 onto the S chassis LCA. I'm not worried about about the tension rod holes lining up, because I can always shut those, and drill new ones. Yes, yes, I can buy the T3 ones for $375, but I'm not exactly rich, nor do I have the resources to do the weld on kit for $175. lol. Thanks in advance.

Re: S chassis front lower control arms on AE86

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:42 am
by supersideways
so you can use s13 lca's and s13 front coils on an 86? just weld the fronts coils on? and using s13 lca will it give you more camber?

Re: S chassis front lower control arms on AE86

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:30 pm
by dr.occa
If the S13-15 ball joint pinion slips into the AE86 steering knuckle and the S chassis' spindle mounting holes line up with the AE86 steering knuckle's it "might".

There's a possibility this combination (if it works) may kink the outer tie rods forward or backward.

Re: S chassis front lower control arms on AE86

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:33 pm
by luisae86
u need s13 knuckles , hubs . lcas, s13 or s14 outer tie rods, rotors , calipers and a set of s13 coilovers also u gonna need all hardware to bolt everything up , also t3 camber plate for ae86 if not redrill the strut tower slightly to fir the s13 coil overs , u also have to drill out one hole on the lcas for the tension rods and ur set im in the process of collecting parts and will begin the swap over soon , this is the proper way to do this . i dont know about any frankestein ae knuckle mating with s13 stuff

Re: S chassis front lower control arms on AE86

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:34 pm
by luisae86
gives more front track, more camber, and more steering angle

Re: S chassis front lower control arms on AE86

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 9:22 pm
by Latino Hibino
dr.occa wrote:If the S13-15 ball joint pinion slips into the AE86 steering knuckle and the S chassis' spindle mounting holes line up with the AE86 steering knuckle's it "might".

There's a possibility this combination (if it works) may kink the outer tie rods forward or backward.
I'm not trying to use the S chassis spindle. I just want to know if the 86 knuckle will work on the S chassis ball joint. If the 86 knuckle work on it, then I can just use the 86's RCA, spindle and strut and have a wider track without having to buy some expensive lower control arms to adjust my track. You can get adjustable S chassis FLCAs for about 200 bucks. Yes, you have to redrill the mounting holes for the tension rods, but it would be worth it if I can just bolt on the knuckle and go from there.

Re: S chassis front lower control arms on AE86

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 9:24 pm
by Latino Hibino
luisae86 wrote:u need s13 knuckles , hubs . lcas, s13 or s14 outer tie rods, rotors , calipers and a set of s13 coilovers also u gonna need all hardware to bolt everything up , also t3 camber plate for ae86 if not redrill the strut tower slightly to fir the s13 coil overs , u also have to drill out one hole on the lcas for the tension rods and ur set im in the process of collecting parts and will begin the swap over soon , this is the proper way to do this . i dont know about any frankestein ae knuckle mating with s13 stuff
I'm gonna have to see if someone has an S chassis FLCA and take a knuckle over to his house. lol.

Re: S chassis front lower control arms on AE86

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 3:34 pm
by luisae86
Yea never hurts to try it be something knew but if I remember correctly someone tried doin this before and they tried using Ae ball joint in. Place s13 one cuz the s13 one didn't work with the knuckle but as I said no harm in tryin

Re: S chassis front lower control arms on AE86

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:39 am
by Latino Hibino
Thanks for the feedback guys.

Re: S chassis front lower control arms on AE86

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:29 pm
by dr.occa
If I might add; it's not about trying something new because it's new but because it may be better. If it happens to be a new way of skinning that proverbial cat then it's an added bonus.

Re: S chassis front lower control arms on AE86

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:54 pm
by Latino Hibino
Well, let's see if I can make it work. I will just need to borrow someone's S14 FLCA and see if the ball joint bolt goes through the AE86 knuckle. If it doesn't, then drill the knuckle mounting hole until it goes through. lol.

Re: S chassis front lower control arms on AE86

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:11 pm
by luisae86
Sounds good here's some food for thought as to why Pple are doin s13 front end conversion

- sealed front bearings
- automatic big brake upgrade and can go with even bigger upgrade if wanted for needed
- readily available and a bit cheaper front coilovers
- wider front track
- and crazy steering angle from lock too lock

Re: S chassis front lower control arms on AE86

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:45 pm
by Latino Hibino
Yeah, I got a friend with S13 front stuff on his 1UZ powered Corolla, and he has enough a ton of angle. lol. Then again, I have a bunch of friends with manual racks with tons of lock as well. I just want a wider front track without me having to throw away some coilovers I worked hard on making to run S13 coils. Well see I guess.

Re: S chassis front lower control arms on AE86

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:42 pm
by luisae86
Then just get the t3 adjustable lca weld on kit and ur done u can push the lca out further with it the other just bolt up option is to buy the t3 adjustable LCas