4AGZE using a 7mgte Ignitor
Ok this is a huge "myth" that only a few people seem to have figured out. I will actually share the info regarding this so it can be easy to find and obtainable for once! after reading and trying to figure all the crap out in the H23 document I think I figured it out. here's the
LINK to that h23 document that explains what the ignition system does. Only not for the 4agze using a 7mgte igniter. Seems as if people are confused with the Club4ag diagram, because it is WRONG. Also I know the wire colors for the igniter but not the pins, as I repinned it to my needing on the 4agze.
wire colors and what they do on a 92' 7mgte Igniter
RED - IGT - trigger to Igniter
GRAY - IGF - confirmation from Igniter
WHITE - IGD-A - input from CAS
ORANGE - IGD-B - input from CAS
BROWN - +B - 12v
YELLOW - TAC - Tachometer
BLUE - C1 - output to coil pack 1
BLACK - C2 - output to coil pack 2
GREEN - C3 - output to coil pack 3
So now that this is broken down via IGNITER SIDE wire color.... you don't need a supra wiring harness to follow the diagrams that are out there on the webs. Also the IGd-A and IGd-B will be explained as well after the igniter to harness. Also Make sure you have the correct wires, because there is 3 black wires, and 2 Black with Orange stripe..... that all go do different things.
So what I did via IGNITER to 4AGZE harness
Red - IGt TO IGt - Black
Gray - IGf TO IGf - Black/Yellow
Orange - IGd-B TO IGd - Black/Orange (thinner)
Brown - +B TO +B - Black/Orange (thicker)
Yellow - Tac TO Tac - Black
Blue - C1 TO IG1 - Black/Blue
Black - C2 TO IG2 - Black
Ok so what the biggest confusion with this I seem to have found is what Trigger wires from the 7MGTE igniter to use and what each wire does...
IGt - sends signal from the ecu to the Igniter
IGf - receives signal from igniter for a "confirmation spark"
easiest way to remember these is TO the igniter and FROM the igniter.
IGd is the identification pin. Ecu sends the signal to the igniter (not the same as IGt) to let the igniter know what coil pack to fire based on the inputs from the Cam Angle Sensor. G-, G1, G2, and NE generates that signal from the CAS.
Also if you noticed in the color diagram there is 2 IGd wires IGd-A and IGd-B. This was the part I was lost on and about wired them together to make it a 1 wire IGd just like the 4agze. Then I figured it out.
IGd-A - no spark on C1
IGd-B - no spark on C3
This goes into the trigger wires. C1, C2, C3 are 7MGTE igniter triggers, and G1, G2 are 4AGZE trigger wires. So if you have IGd-A hooked up use C2 and C3, and if you have IGd-B hooked up use C1 and C2
C1 - controls #1 & #6 cylinders
C2 - controls #3 & #4 cylinders
C3 - controls #2 & #5 cylinders
I honestly don't know how people are using C1 and C3 WITHOUT combining the 2 IGd-A and IGd-B wires together igniter side.
Another note everything is ground trigger. So you should have 12v on IG1 and IG2 with everything hooked up. Basically when it "fires" for spark it drops 12v to ground. So if you have a test light/logic probe it should flash on/off/on/off/on/off.
Also again any questions just ask.