sold the kevlar corolla shell

kevlar corolla · Post by **kevlar corolla** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 7:45 pm

Guy picked up my car today,sorta sad after it taking up 10 years of my life but I'll get over it with the new build.

Anyways its new life is to be a drag car,he currently runs a stock bodied 2jz'd corolla but its too heavy hence the purchase of mine.Engine currently making 850 on the dyno but should be 1000hp come next spring.
Expects low 8's,if he gets the chassis sorted to put the power down high 7's maybe??.

mooreofit · Post by **mooreofit** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 11:56 pm

im glad you got it sold and to somebody who is going to put it to good use!

mexellent · Post by **mexellent** » Sat Oct 03, 2009 1:26 am

CRAZY!!!

You think your chassis can handle 1k hp?

kevlar corolla · Post by **kevlar corolla** » Sat Oct 03, 2009 5:39 pm

Sure why not??

Those crazy puerto ricans have starlets in the 7 ands 8's don't they?.

inertia · Post by **inertia** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 1:50 am

true that

Post by **dr.occa** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 1:53 am

yeah, but they aren't as crazy as some canucks i know of who've built an entire shell out of kevlar (which i must say is crazy cool) no names mentioned...ahem...cough...TOM.

kevlar corolla · Post by **kevlar corolla** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 7:35 pm

I heard a rumour that the same crazy canuck is starting a new project very shortly-starting with a pile of tubing and ending up with a car way way faster than any corolla has ever been.

I also heard it will have next to no bodywork(think Atom),building the last one was too much work.

If your interested I can show the odd build pic once good progress is made,likely after christmas-this designing everything is HAARD.

mexellent · Post by **mexellent** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:26 pm

LOL!!!

You cant really call it the worlds fastest Corolla if its not REALLY a corolla.

Im very interested in this though. When I graduate from school I will start my own project and we'll have to race...

5 years down the road or so... =D

Post by **dr.occa** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:06 am

kevlar corolla wrote:I heard a rumour that the same crazy canuck is starting a new project very shortly-starting with a pile of tubing and ending up with a car way way faster than any corolla has ever been.

I also heard it will have next to no bodywork(think Atom),building the last one was too much work.

If your interested I can show the odd build pic once good progress is made,likely after christmas-this designing everything is HAARD.

yes, please do show. i'm looking forward to it tom.

mooreofmick · Post by **mooreofmick** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:59 am

please i would like to see some pic that would be great :D

kevlar corolla · Post by **kevlar corolla** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:01 pm

mexellent wrote:LOL!!!

You cant really call it the worlds fastest Corolla if its not REALLY a corolla.

Im very interested in this though. When I graduate from school I will start my own project and we'll have to race...

5 years down the road or so... =D

I didn't mean to imply its a corolla,just that it'll be soooo much faster than any corolla has ever been/will be(in the twisties,I'm so not into drag cars)

5 years from now would be excellent,I'll have it well sorted by then and hopefully my reactions will be quick enough to get the most out of it.Thats my biggest challenge I expect,simply being able to think/react fast enough to get close to its potencial.

mexellent · Post by **mexellent** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:58 pm

lol. Gotcha.

You know that is a very important subject youve hit on. The limitations of the drivers. Especially in autocross. However, I think you will be safe. You need to implement ground effects into your car to get into that point where driver reflexes are an issue. Typical human response time is .250 seconds.

If you wanna outrun your reflexes, youre gonna need a set up like this.

THIS CAR IS INSANE. 200hp two stroke with CVT. The only thing the driver does is turn, gas, and brake. No time for shifting!

The max we were able to hit w/o aero was 1.3g's on hoosier R25's. With aero we have spiked at 2.2g's but the average g's we pull is around 1.6.

kevlar corolla · Post by **kevlar corolla** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:19 pm

Cool info,I've been wondering about an undertray but I'm allready taking on such a big project......by myself.

Trying to raise the rear of the frame to make room for a diffuser must be tough to get properly designed and braced since the lower control mounts need to be where the diffuser is etc.I think I'll keep it simple with a flat floor,the rest of the car won't be very areodynamic anyways with the exposed tubing.
I would like to build wings,I don't like the high/skinny nose look though so I obviously limit the front wing area.

I'm debating on the needed ground clearance,kinda designing around a 2" clearance with a 20" r25B,also considering a 21" tire for a 2.5" clearance.Any thoughts?

mexellent · Post by **mexellent** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:42 pm

hahahahaha

Those pesky A-arms always get in the way. It would be so much easier if they weren't there.

The only way I know around it is to build it the way we built it, with the tunnels beside the frame and ending before the rear a-arm points. Diffusers dont work very well unless the car is low to the ground. For our car its around 1in, but for a bigger car it may be different? The flat bottom thing is a good idea. Rome wasnt built in a day, and you dont have to stop at this car.

The way we design our cars is:

-decide the purpose of the car (2.5" seems high for a car that will be only driven in track, but then it may not be for the track)
-pick a tire you want to run
-pick a wheelbase and track
-pick an engine
-pick your weight distribution

Its pretty much connect the dots from there in. You have suspension points, engine mount points, and space constraints from the engine and the driver and whatnot.

The best advice I can give you is download a CAD program and learn how to use it. You can use it to model your car before you build it and it will save you alot of time and money.

If you got any more questions, let me know.

kevlar corolla · Post by **kevlar corolla** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:02 pm

I was afraid that 2" would cause bottoming problems,even if the track was glass smooth(which they are far from up here)you still need to get through the paddock.Getting into/out of the trailer is easy to fix by transporting on tall tires.

I've done what you list already as far as picking the items,even did them in essentially the same order(puffs chest out in confidence

)

What I've decided is;
-Track and autox only
-Pretty sure it'll be the 20" tire(too many advantages over even the 21")
-Track width will be stock miata as I'm using the rack modded to correct
bumpsteer
-wheelbase is the only real item not nailed down,I'm still working on the
space requirements-I'm in the mid to high 80" range.Making the wheelbase a little shorter should allow me to get the rear weight a little higher.
-the engine is from an R1,mounted where the driver would normally sit and the driver sitting beside it making it RHD
-weight distrubution has me puzzled,I've driven and not liked mid engine cars so thought I'd aim for 50/50 but wonder if thats the right approuch for puttitng the power down.My gut tells me that my seating/engine placement will likely effect a rear weight of about 55%,I'm sure how close my gut is too right however.