... New CAMS being tested by NST ... Update ...

NonStopTuning · Post by **NonStopTuning** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:27 pm

hvguy wrote:Its funny how you say that traditional cams lose low and mid range. But when I installed my cam, it added power everywhere from 700-7k.

When speaking in this thread, I am speaking about traditional cams for the 4AGE DOHC 16V 1.6 and the Tri Flow cams we have tested. The testing I have done with both styles of cams (traditional and Tri Flow) has led me to make certain claims, that I can back up with verifiable data.

Are you speaking relative to the 4AGE engine? What cam did you put in said 4AGE that made gains from 700 to 7000 rpm? Can you provide in depth dyno charts with test data?

hvguy · Post by **hvguy** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:11 pm

Im talking about the pansy 4ac SOHC. I dont know much about them 4ag's.

I thought you were talking about all cams in general.

Post by **dr.occa** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:21 pm

hvguy wrote:Its funny how you say that traditional cams lose low and mid range. But when I installed my cam, it added power everywhere from 700-7k.

it's not funny and is actually true. so did you ever dyno your car prior to the cam and then after installing the cam? let's see actual dyno runs and numbers rather than butt gauge claims.

Overdrift · Post by **Overdrift** » Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:12 am

I can post a dyno sheet for a stock 4ac if needed. stock you should have between 46-51whp @3600 rpm and about 16-18whp@6000 rpm

hvguy · Post by **hvguy** » Tue Aug 26, 2008 3:51 am

Overdrift wrote:I can post a dyno sheet for a stock 4ac if needed. stock you should have between 46-51whp @3600 rpm and about 16-18whp@6000 rpm

POST IT!!! 18 at 6k? Maybe if I had 3 of the plugs removed.

Nativo · Post by **Nativo** » Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:48 pm

NonStopTuning wrote:

For those who want the technical specs on the Tri Flow Camshafts...
Tri Flow Intake Cam Primary Lobes are 268deg 8.33mm lift
Tri Flow Intake Cam Secondary Lobes are 261deg 8.28mm lift
Exhaust Cam Lobes are 268deg 8.33mm lift

:D

Thanks Mike:
I realized those are advertising duration. What is their duration @.050

Thanks,

Efrain

Overdrift · Post by **Overdrift** » Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:54 pm

A engine is a engine in my books. I feel that the Tri Flow cams are a great idea and a very good alternative to "normal" aftermarket camshafts. I have faith that Mike has done far more reasearch than any of us can even begin to think about and I trust what he has to say.

Lets keep this on topic with 4AG/4AGE Tri Flow Camshafts. I have made a seperate thread if you want to continue to voice your opinions about the 4AC.

Post by **dr.occa** » Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:48 pm

Nativo wrote:
NonStopTuning wrote:

For those who want the technical specs on the Tri Flow Camshafts...
Tri Flow Intake Cam Primary Lobes are 268deg 8.33mm lift
Tri Flow Intake Cam Secondary Lobes are 261deg 8.28mm lift
Exhaust Cam Lobes are 268deg 8.33mm lift

:D
Thanks Mike:
I realized those are advertising duration. What is their duration @.050

Thanks,

Efrain

actually, if i'm not mistaken, from my past discussions w/ Geoff, those numbers maybe "@.050". again, i've had many discussions w/ Geoff and i believe we had this specific one as well. i'll see if i can also find that email from a while back that should have that information pertaining to this.

NonStopTuning · Post by **NonStopTuning** » Tue Aug 26, 2008 4:44 pm

Nativo wrote:
NonStopTuning wrote:

For those who want the technical specs on the Tri Flow Camshafts...
Tri Flow Intake Cam Primary Lobes are 268deg 8.33mm lift
Tri Flow Intake Cam Secondary Lobes are 261deg 8.28mm lift
Exhaust Cam Lobes are 268deg 8.33mm lift

:D
Thanks Mike:
I realized those are advertising duration. What is their duration @.050

Thanks,

Efrain

Man, you guys are a pesky bunch!!! :D

Yes, these are advertised durations, because this is what most people ask for. To answer your question... What is duration at 50?

Tri Flow Intake Cam Primary is 229deg at 50
Tri Flow Intake Cam Secondary is 223deg at 50
Exhaust Cam Duration is 229deg at 50

Post by **dr.occa** » Tue Aug 26, 2008 5:15 pm

thanks again Mike.

NonStopTuning · Post by **NonStopTuning** » Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:18 pm

Want even MORE data, pictures, and information about these cams and our testing?

Go to this page and follow the links...
http://www.nonstoptuning.com/pNSTtriflowCams.html

Our first three sets will be in stock and on sale early to mid Sept.

Good luck and have fun with all your projects everyone!

Post by **CBR_TOY** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:04 am

so does law get to keep the prototypes? or does he have to pay for them?

aceofspades · Post by **aceofspades** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:56 am

i'll wait till i see these in an 4agze! so if you guys want to them on my car let me know! i would drive down

NonStopTuning · Post by **NonStopTuning** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:08 am

These cams would be great for a GZE or a turbo GE/GZE. Unfortunately I can not commit more $$$$ to R&D and testing, unless we see some real demand and support from the community.

Maybe if a few people place orders with us we can raise a few bucks to help pay for more dyno testing with the NST AE86! Will's 86 has a turbo 4AG.

:D

aceofspades · Post by **aceofspades** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 2:44 am

NonStopTuning wrote:These cams would be great for a GZE or a turbo GE/GZE. Unfortunately I can not commit more $$$$ to R&D and testing, unless we see some real demand and support from the community.

Maybe if a few people place orders with us we can raise a few bucks to help pay for more dyno testing with the NST AE86! Will's 86 has a turbo 4AG.

:D

but thats not a GZE set up =)
I know its sucks but these cams are not cheap and some times you just got to spend the money show what they can do