Nassers AE86

Nasser · Post by **Nasser** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:49 pm

my dads older rear shox fit on my car so i put em on well one of the bolts or the tread thing u put the bolt on like the key part and a lil more snapped so ima just weld the washed thing to it since ill prob end up slicing it off when i get the greddy coil overs.

Nasser · Post by **Nasser** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 4:18 pm

Post by **nt66** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 6:31 pm

you cant use a clutch master on a brake setup it doesn't have a bleed port so as soon as you move the brake fluid will heat up and expand which will cause the brakes to lock up until they cool off.

Nasser · Post by **Nasser** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 8:36 pm

it will just come up through the tank if anything i guess because the piston wont be pushed in and that tank is basically ur reserve so it will just let it come up through the tank if anything i am assuming.
when the piston is being pushed in essentially you block shit from coming back but as the pressure builds it would come through the tank and overflow. unlike the k-sport which doesn't have a tank i understand why u would need a bleed port. why do you think people put socks on their tanks? because when the shit overheats it bubbles up through there.

and i do not see why it should heat up in the first place. i am not using it to actually slow down the car it will be used to lock the wheels completely so i am clueless as to why it should heat up.

Post by **nt66** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:05 pm

Nasser wrote:it will just come up through the tank if anything i guess because the piston wont be pushed in and that tank is basically ur reserve so it will just let it come up through the tank if anything i am assuming.
when the piston is being pushed in essentially you block shit from coming back but as the pressure builds it would come through the tank and overflow. unlike the k-sport which doesn't have a tank i understand why u would need a bleed port. why do you think people put socks on their tanks? because when the shit overheats it bubbles up through there.

and i do not see why it should heat up in the first place. i am not using it to actually slow down the car it will be used to lock the wheels completely so i am clueless as to why it should heat up.

the brakes heat up dont they? there is no bleed port your not understanding how this system works fluid can not just rush up into the reservoir that makes no sense at all if you ust the clutch master it will work for about 2 minutes then your wheels will lock up and you will have to wait for it to cool

Post by **nt66** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:21 pm

When you brake, the fluid heats up, both from the act of compression, and from heat generated by the friction surfaces. This causes the fluid to expand, so the volume of fluid after braking is larger than it was before braking. The excess volume is vented through the intake/return ports when they reopen, allowing the wheel pistons to move back home and release pressure on the discs/drums.

taken from another website the intake/return port is not present on clutch master cylinders because its not a problem if the fluid expands in a clutch setup because your only pushing the clutch all the way and the releasing it so it doesn't effect the way it works.

Nasser · Post by **Nasser** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:33 pm

yet when i am driving in traffic constantly pushing it down and letting off it doesn't lock? it doesn't make sense to me as to why normally it will bubble through the tank why should having it hooked up to another line make any difference at all?

Post by **nt66** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:55 pm

Nasser wrote:yet when i am driving in traffic constantly pushing it down and letting off it doesn't lock? it doesn't make sense to me as to why normally it will bubble through the tank why should having it hooked up to another line make any difference at all?

your not understanding at all do whatever you won't listen and apparently you already have it figured out but there is a big difference between a brake master cylinders and a clutch master cylinders and your destine to find out the hard way

Post by **CBR_TOY** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:47 pm

wow... why don't you ever listen nasser?

my85suprat · Post by **my85suprat** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 2:39 am

CBR_TOY wrote:wow... why don't you ever listen nasser?

you didn't know? All 16 year olds know everything! J/K nasser. My Step son is the same way!

Post by **dr.occa** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:57 pm

just keep in mind why there is a specific cylinder designed for operating your hydraulic brakes and another for your hydraulic clutch.

there is no heat generated w/ a hydraulic clutch system. it's primary purpose is to help you generate the needed leverage force to operate the clutch fork for disengaging the clutch plate via the diaphragm spring. try pushing all the fingers of the diaphragm spring in with your bare hands.

no internal energy is being transferred over to the hydraulic lines in a hydraulic clutch system. while hydraulic fluid IS constantly in contact with the brake piston(s) that is in direct contact with the brake pad(s), which in turn generates heat when slowing a vehicles kinetic energy. heat is generated due to the friction of pad on rotor. that heat is then transferred to other adjoining components.

Hydraulic clutch:
fluid reservoir->cylinder->line->slave cylinder->carrier->piston->release bearing fork

essentially no internal heat is transferred to the hydraulic fluid because the fluid is isolated from the components that produce kinetic energy namely the clutch plate.

Hydraulic brake:
fluid reservoir->cylinder->primary piston & secondary piston->hydraulic line(s)->proportioner->hydraulic lines->piston housing->brake caliper piston

here, the hydraulic fluid is directly exposed to the components that generate heat. this is why you'll experience brake fade on track days at MSR, SCCA autocross (if you do more than your usual 3-4 runs).

what will is trying to convey to you is correct. but again, what you do in light of the information is entirely up to you.

choose wisely.

rage · Post by **rage** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:21 am

death trap 86

Nasser · Post by **Nasser** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:31 pm

Nasser · Post by **Nasser** » Wed Apr 01, 2009 8:32 pm

well i dont have any more money for t fittings or shit to i got done putting the rear brake line back on today, all that left is to find the line that goes from the regulator to the rear line and im done.

unfortunately a bleeder valve is stuck and twisted on one of my rear calipers so i will have to fix that and the starter i am picking up this weekend maybe to get it running.

the rear end turned from a regular whine into a sharpening noise and from what i hear from other people its my ring and pinion thats going to shit and blow on me sometime soon i hope not.

anyhow if i get the starter deal sorted out and find the reason of the brake pad waring at an angle on my front brakes (warped rotors) i am assuming it will be up and running better than before and will be getting some fresh paint i told 2 people what color it will be but yeah u will just have to wait.

the only reason i am fixing the car after sitting for so long is because my cressida is getting horrible gas mileage maybe 17 or so. so saving gas money was my motivation but i have had business recently changing gaskets brakes oil and what not at the house for some money so i can prob get new rotors and replace those cracked pads and build her and make her my dd once again. i will prob throw the back seats in as well 2 morrow for the hell of it because i like rolling 4 deep especially when sliding.

thats the update on my car ill make a vid 2 morrow after i get home.

Nasser · Post by **Nasser** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 11:52 am

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it does not look to pretty i need to get some paint soon hopefully