Alternative Ignition: COPs - batch fire

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Re: Alternative Ignition: COPs - batch fire

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so right now you do have an igf singnal from one of the coils and it still doesn't fire?

I am unsure what happens when an ignitor doesn't have a coil to fire, it may not send an IGF signal at all.
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make sure your confirmation signal is from JUST ONE of the coils. NOT FROM ALL OF THE COILS.

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Re: Alternative Ignition: COPs - batch fire

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I do have one IGf signal from the coil. I does fire right up, but it cuts at about 5k revs. I also have another IGf signal from another cop to my sgi-8 to drive my tach. But the tach cuts at 3.5k revs.

I am not successful at running the cops without the coil/igniter. I pm'ed a member in club4ag who had similar problems I am having. Basically, he just put back his coil/igniter and the fuel cut is gone.

Im just going to try to copy the wiring diagram on the first page of this thread.

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did you also check your CEL codes?

have you tried disconnecting the IGf signal to the sgi-8 to see if it'll run up that way?

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Re: Alternative Ignition: COPs - batch fire

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Hey guys picked up some coils from a 2002 Honda civic for 100 bucks but the only thing is It dident have the plugs so I looked over and a accord had them I checked them out and they fit so he let me have them with the coils if they fit I'm good right I should not have any problems? It's the 3 plug by the way.

question will you be able to run the haltech e6x whith the cop system and if so. If I decide to go with the e6x will you be able to install it jonas?

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AE86Silverred - the best way to find out is contact Haltech. Installing is easy, tuning is another story.

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Re: Alternative Ignition: COPs - batch fire

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I just want to update my cop project. after a long delay, I finally got my dli cop's running. What I differently was:
-exactly copied the cop diagram on this page
-mounted my coil and igniter properly
-mounted my ecu properly

that's it! ran all the way to 8k+ no problem. i didn't even put my autometer tach back because i have stock tach.

to summarize: cop's will not run by itself. you need coil and igniter to run it properly

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Re: Alternative Ignition: COPs - batch fire

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balmo, which diagram and on which page? The first post and page of this thread? Glad to hear it's up and running.

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Re: Alternative Ignition: COPs - batch fire

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yup 1st page of this thread. can't wait to get to the track!

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Re: Alternative Ignition: COPs - batch fire

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Hi guys, I'm new here, so be gentle. I will be running a Microtech ECU with the 4Xbox (ignitor with 4 outputs) My question is: since the COPs of the current Toyota all include an ignitor each, what COPs can I use that do not have a in-built ignitor? I am still new to this, so does my question make sense or am I being stupid?

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Re: Alternative Ignition: COPs - batch fire

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No, it's a good question okkie.

I believe the 1MZFE cops that I cited in this thread are igniter less. They're the old 2 wire style. You can also look into COPs from the late 97+ Econoline, 98+ Crowns, etc...

Also, I believe you can use even the newer COPs from a 1zz, 2zz, 1nz, etc... just use the +12v and ground connections only.

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Re: Alternative Ignition: COPs - batch fire

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Thx, U are the MAN.

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Re: Alternative Ignition: COPs - batch fire

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will be doing this soon to my newly acquired blacktop! i dunno where you're finding coils for $50... maybe $50 EACH
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AznTKDmstr wrote:will be doing this soon to my newly acquired blacktop! i dunno where you're finding coils for $50... maybe $50 EACH
It's just diligence and timing Thaison ;).

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Re: Alternative Ignition: COPs - batch fire

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junk yards bro...You would be amaized what you find
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